Putting Out Fire is Nothing New

 

Interesting discussion on fire science, ventilation and learning behavior

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The video below is of a Google Hangout moderated by Pete Lamb of Firefighter Training and www.petelamb.com. Our own Dave LeBlanc sat in and participated. I found quite a few of the comments interesting, especially the ones about our own learning behavior and how we are lazy.

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Bill Carey is the online public safety news and blog manager with PennWell Public Safety, or more specifically FireRescue Magazine/FirefighterNation.com, JEMS.com, LawOfficer.com and FireEMSBlogs.com. Bill started in the fire service, as a third generation firefighter in 1986, on the eastern shore of Maryland and then continued after moving to Prince George's County. He served as a volunteer sergeant and lieutenant at Hyattsville where he met Chris Hebert and Dave Ianonne, the creators of Firehouse.com. Bill went to work for them back in 2001 and after they transitioned away to new, bigger projects, he was hired by them again in 2009. Bill's writing has been on Firehouse.com, Fire Engineering, FireRescue Magazine, FirefighterNation.com, the Jones and Bartlett 2010 edition of "Fire Officer: Principles and Practice", The Secret List and Tinhelmet.com.

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  • Ron Ayotte says:

    I listened to this while at the firehouse on a snowy Saturday morning.  What Dave and others said is true.. the fire service is "trendy"… look at the the push to incorporate EMS into the fire service, hazmat, technical resue, terrorism response.. all at the expense of the core mission of the fire service. We stress these while ignoring "the basics".. the science is changing, with changes in building materials and construction, fire loads and the frequency of fires in any given community. We have to keep up with the basics and the changes.

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