UFM: Unrealistic Facebook Mantras


Comments to post on popular Facebook page reveal some hefty attitudes of the FDNY doing it wrong


Urban Firefighter Magazine posts many tongue-in-cheek photos, or sometimes in-your-face ones. They have their special use, some for training, some for conversation and some for business. This one below titled ‘Waiting for Water’ sparked the usual amount of comments the page gets. Some were real ‘winners’ or should I say ‘whiners’?

Here are a few gems,

UFMPhotoDuane Miller “Where is his face mask?”

Stanley Vincent Mooneyham “No air mask on? Training? If so he should still have his mask on.”

Christopher Burkart “And when it comes that open line is going to smack him in the face”

Chris Powell “He should be waiting for someone to slap his dumb ass! Where is his mask and flash hood? It’s obviously staged? But it’s like a find 10 things wrong with this picture.”

Louis Lovato “Your bail should be closed rookie mistake.”

Thomas Cook “I’m Chicago and that’s a horrible pic. Spend many years in a hi rise still district. 80 I’m my district alone. That pic is frightening.”

John Benjamin “Right in front and too close to thr door and where’s his backup + no scba mask on breathing air.”

Justin Langdon “No mask? Drill or no drill you train like you fight. The more you sweat in training the less you bleed in combat!”

Drew Figas “Waiting for water and ready to go in ? Not ! No scba = stupidity ….. The cylinder on his back looks pretty though … Wtf !!!”

Drew Figas “Not to mention he has no back up or his nomex even on !!!! This is a what not to do pic !!!!”

Mpho Mpz Eddy Magobe “Going into a scene without a charged hose? Dangerous”

Stewart Pam Howley “Should have water on before even entering the building – basic stuff!”

Thomas Cook “Waiting for water means you have a fire and your ready to do battle. This guy ain’t ready”

Stephen Stolarik “What’s wrong with this picture? 1. Going into a building with out a charged line 2. Does not have hood on 3. Does not have SCBA on 4. No back up man 5.To much hose on stairs 6. Too close to door”

It is what is it, people freely commenting based on what they visually interpret and combine with their own experiences as well as strengths, fears and knowledge. That’s fine, but for the rest of us who have an SOP that allows stretching dry to the fire floor, as conditions allow, in a five-story walk-up and then masking up prior to entry of the fire room, let it go. How do you condemn what you don’t know? How do you castigate what works for one department and not for yours? Why not jump on the question bandwagon and not the criticizing one? That’s where we learn from each other.

And for the ones who find fault with the ‘bail’ being opened, first it is written bale, B-A-L-E, and when you are bleeding the line of air, while waiting for water, you open it all the way to allow the air to escape, to hear the sound of the line being charged and to allow any debris to freely pass through the opening of the smoothbore nozzle.

Keep that in your “basics”.

More on this subject in “Facebook Pharisees Throwing Stones”

Photos courtesy of Urban Firefighter Magazine

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Bill Carey is the online public safety news and blog manager with PennWell Public Safety, or more specifically FireRescue Magazine/FirefighterNation.com, JEMS.com, LawOfficer.com and FireEMSBlogs.com. Bill started in the fire service, as a third generation firefighter in 1986, on the eastern shore of Maryland and then continued after moving to Prince George’s County. He served as a volunteer sergeant and lieutenant at Hyattsville where he met Chris Hebert and Dave Ianonne, the creators of Firehouse.com. Bill went to work for them back in 2001 and after they transitioned away to new, bigger projects, he was hired by them again in 2009. Bill’s writing has been on Firehouse.com, Fire Engineering, FireRescue Magazine, FirefighterNation.com, the Jones and Bartlett 2010 edition of “Fire Officer: Principles and Practice”, The Secret List and Tinhelmet.com.

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Jeff chandler
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Very good explanation! I have been known to have the same rant.
2015-01-17 03:58:59
Anthony Correia
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Dave i agree with your whole post. However the one thing I'm not experiencing or seeing is the over safetyifcation. While i hear words spoke about being safe when possible, but not sacrificing service for safety. If anything, i see firefighters more aggressive than when i started many years back due to the increased protection…
2015-01-14 14:37:28
Jon Newton
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Well done. You make some awesome points. In regards to the "numbers".....(and kind of backing up your thought of changing tactics), we have often wondered why there is so much emphasis on RIT and the RIT/Industrial complex. I'm on Chicago and have worked in the Chicago Suburbs for almost 20 years. We've seen the advent…
2015-01-14 04:15:23
Marshall Sampietro
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spot on....
2015-01-02 14:43:50
Ron Ayotte
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“Over safetyification”... Dave, that is the best description of what those who want to prevent us from doing the job want to do to the job.
2014-12-31 16:29:29
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