A Primer on Victim Survivability Profiling and “Taking It To The Streets” Program

What you should know or how you should conduct yourself before engaging in debate.


Chris Naum’s latest ‘Taking It To The Streets’ program on FirefighterNetcast is “Victim Survivability Profiling” with guest FDNY Captain Stephen Marsar (Division 3). This topic is probably the most heated debate within the fire service, possibly topping searching vacant buildings.

I am familiar with the debate going around on this tactic. It was also an interesting subject at FDIC this year. Whether or not you agree with Captain Marsar’s research, I’d like to point out a few things that would help everyone when you discuss it.

First, read the research paper.
Much of what is being discussed is based on hearsay and emotion. If you’re going to take a stand, make sure it’s on a solid foundation.

Finally, treat the other guy with respect.
Sure, we’re not going to agree on everything. There are members on the same department in some places that can’t agree on strategy and tactics.
No one is going to win any arguments when we start throwing around “sallies” and “cowboys”

Captain Marsar’s research “Can They Be Saved? Utilizing Civilian Survivability Profiling to Enhance Size-Up and Reduce Firefighter Fatalities in the Fire Department, City of New York” recently won a U.S. Fire Administration’s Outstanding Research Award as part of the Executive Fire Officer program.

Read the paper, listen to the broadcast and then, most importantly, see what truly applies to you.


There’s a lot to consider when trying to make the stairs.
Is reasoning that an occupant is dead or alive one of them?




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Dave LeBlanc
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first of all, thank for the responses and interest. I apologize for the delay. Discussion is good.... While I took a shot at "some guy named Eddie' it was a tongue in cheek response to a similar shot taken by the Chief in response to one of my blogs. While the article was less about…
2015-02-28 14:26:28
Michael Furci
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Great article.
2015-02-28 05:28:17
Bill Carey
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Editor's Note: Dave LeBlanc will replay to your comments soon, but he is currently recuperating from a surgery and is unable to type well at the moment. Thank you.
2015-02-27 22:26:19
Bob Davis
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I am not sure how to take this article or some of the comments after. As one of the training officers in my mid-sized volunteer department, I have gone through SLICERS and RECEO-VS both the discussions and the science behind them. While I can't say I have seen everything about this, all I have ever…
2015-02-27 19:31:32
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