A Primer on Victim Survivability Profiling and “Taking It To The Streets” Program

What you should know or how you should conduct yourself before engaging in debate.


Chris Naum’s latest ‘Taking It To The Streets’ program on FirefighterNetcast is “Victim Survivability Profiling” with guest FDNY Captain Stephen Marsar (Division 3). This topic is probably the most heated debate within the fire service, possibly topping searching vacant buildings.

I am familiar with the debate going around on this tactic. It was also an interesting subject at FDIC this year. Whether or not you agree with Captain Marsar’s research, I’d like to point out a few things that would help everyone when you discuss it.

First, read the research paper.
Much of what is being discussed is based on hearsay and emotion. If you’re going to take a stand, make sure it’s on a solid foundation.

Finally, treat the other guy with respect.
Sure, we’re not going to agree on everything. There are members on the same department in some places that can’t agree on strategy and tactics.
No one is going to win any arguments when we start throwing around “sallies” and “cowboys”

Captain Marsar’s research “Can They Be Saved? Utilizing Civilian Survivability Profiling to Enhance Size-Up and Reduce Firefighter Fatalities in the Fire Department, City of New York” recently won a U.S. Fire Administration’s Outstanding Research Award as part of the Executive Fire Officer program.

Read the paper, listen to the broadcast and then, most importantly, see what truly applies to you.


There’s a lot to consider when trying to make the stairs.
Is reasoning that an occupant is dead or alive one of them?




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Kelly Jernigan
A Bit of Compassion
Thank you for taking the time to write this article. It's wonderful to know others share the same compassion for animals.
2014-09-27 13:53:01
Bill Carey
Wanted: Honest Discernment in Our Fire Service Discussions
Thank you John. I believe that part of the problem(s) is that some don't know how to pare down the material to what works for them. Another is that some believe that if XYZ worked for them is must and have to work for you, no exceptions. Finally, yes, I did get permission. Bill
2014-09-27 01:03:20
John Butler
Wanted: Honest Discernment in Our Fire Service Discussions
Hey Bill, good article. I've been building and selling flashover units since 2000. I've been preaching and practising flow path control since then. My first blitz attack (reset) was on a two storey house with flames out the 2nd storey window, back in 1996. We were first-in, as a 3 man crew on a ladder…
2014-09-27 00:54:12
Julian
A Bit of Compassion
Thanks for sharing your story. We bring our dogs to our office every day... What a fighter that doggy was.
2014-09-26 20:13:12
Ron Ayotte
A Bit of Compassion
I got word last night that the dog crossed the rainbow bridge yesterday afternoon.
2014-09-26 17:13:10
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