Looking Back at “The Front Seat” for April 6, 2011

A recap of Dave’s program with the discussed firefighter fatality reports.


Wednesday night was the premiere of “The Front Seat” on Firefighter Netcast. It was my first solo Netcast experience. John Mitchell and Rhett Fleitz were kind enough to be my first guests and keep me from sounding too stupid. Unless I sounded stupid and then I own that, not them.

The first show was an introduction. It allowed me to explain what my plans for “The Front Seat” are, and where it will travel. Some old friends called in which was a great time. True to form for these old friends, they not only offered congratulations to me, but they weighed on the topics being discussed, giving their two cents worth.

Much of last night’s discussion centered on the NIOSH LODD reports and LODD reports done by individual Departments. As I wrote Monday, “The Truth Hurts, So Learn From It” . This blog was about the 2008 Line of Duty Deaths of Captain Robin Broxterman and Firefighter Brian Schira. Both NIOSH and Colerain Township conducted investigations, and while both contain valuable information, the Colerain Township reports openly and honestly pointed the finger at some significant factors not covered by NIOSH. “Mindset, Complacency and Apathy” are all pretty strong words to use when describing contributing factors that lead to the death of one of your own.

There are two other department generated reports that I feel really are put together well. In March of 2003 a young Cincinnati Fireman, Oscar Armstrong, made the ultimate sacrifice at a residential fire in the Bond Hill Section of the City. Fireman Armstrong was killed in a flashover after he lost water during fire attack. The report, Cincinnati Fire Report – Oscar Armstrong – 03/23/2003 , is a candid look at the operations that day.

The second report was mentioned by Chris Brennan, The Fire Service Warrior, when he called in to the show. In March of 2001, Phoenix Fireman Brett Tarver lost his life in a fire in a supermarket at 35th Avenue and McDowell Road. Fireman Tarver was killed after running out of air and becoming disoriented. In true Phoenix fashion, the department took a hard look at the events of that day and made sweeping changes to their operation. The changes recommended ranged from reinforcing the basic, to reevaluating Rapid Intervention practices so that they fit the situation at hand. Out of this report Phoenix conducted RIT drills and discovered that far too often the rescuers need rescuing. They also discovered that most of the time it takes 12 firemen to rescue 1. The Tarver report, Phoenix Fire – Brett Tarver – 03/14/2001 , has a host of information that every department can use. Rapid Intervention Isn’t Rapid is an article written by Steve Kreis of the Phoenix Fire Department. At the time of the article, Steve was the Assistant Chief of Operations. It is another good resource and an eye opening look at the changes needed in Rapid Intervention techniques.

So if you missed the show last night, be sure to head over to the Firefighter Netcast Audio Archive and take a listen. Or you can download it through Itunes. If you have never had a chance to look at any of the reports mentioned, wither in the show of here in this blog, it is well worth your time to do so.

Dave – TFS



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3 Comments

  • ChiefReason says:

    Dave:
    From my very first show with you as my very first guest, I knew that this day would come.
    You have been a leader in many ways with your discussions at the various fire service discussion boards; with your work with the IACOJ website and your blogging from the Front Seat at Back Step Firefighter and now, in a different venue with you blog talk show, you have the opportunity to lead the discussion live on Internet radio. It will only grow your audience of listeners who care about the issues that you are so passionate about. I know that you don’t take your role lightly and struggle with the influence that you may have on others. I thank the good Lord for hooking us up so many years ago. I wish you nothing but the best and great success.
    Break a leg…but not like Jeff did.
    Take care.

  • Eddie C says:

    Hey Dave,

    Great job with the new show. Sorry I could not make it live, but Ill be sure to next time. I enjoyed your realistic discussion on LODDs and how effective or ineffective reports are. I am excited to see where future shows will go.

    Keep it up brother.

    Eddie C.

  • Marty Greene says:

    Keep talking Dave. I agree the Colrain report was amazing, it should be required reading, I put the exucutive summary on the duty officer’ desk today and the entire document in the shared folder on our server.

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