November 30-Second Drill

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stopwatch imageWhat is the average number of personnel you can expect from a company assigned to RIC, RIT or FAST duties in your area? Where on the fireground are they expected to be positioned? Does your department specify what tools shall be gathered by the RIC, RIT of FAST company?

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  • BK says:

    We here in our dept in KS will usually have 2-3 personnel. We usually have them position on the “A” side, but the situation will warrent their location. We have them grab the basic hand tools along with a TIC

  • In my SC dept. The initial RIC is 3-4 personnel. After an adequate size up, the RIC Officer stages at/near the CP while the rest of the RIC may stage nearby and/or provide proactive RIC tasks. For multi-story or commercial buildings, the RIC(s) may stage on different/multiple divisions. The entire FD is trained to our RIC SOG for riding positions, “basic” tools, multiple search methods and Mayday management.

  • Chris Minick says:

    My department in MD assigns the fourth engine on a box alarm as the RIT company. Minimum staffing is four. In the event of a working fire being declared, a RIT task force consisting of an engine company, a special service company, and a medic unit is assigned resulting in a RIT team of a minimum of 10 personnel.

    Typically the RIT sets up their tool area on the A side of the structure and assembles at that location. The RIT officer or a delegated team member is supposed to do a 360 and note any locations where ladders or other means of secondary egress can be or should be established. RIT crew activities and responsibilities and tools to be assembled are established by departmental SOP.

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Jeff chandler
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Very good explanation! I have been known to have the same rant.
2015-01-17 03:58:59
Anthony Correia
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Dave i agree with your whole post. However the one thing I'm not experiencing or seeing is the over safetyifcation. While i hear words spoke about being safe when possible, but not sacrificing service for safety. If anything, i see firefighters more aggressive than when i started many years back due to the increased protection…
2015-01-14 14:37:28
Jon Newton
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Well done. You make some awesome points. In regards to the "numbers".....(and kind of backing up your thought of changing tactics), we have often wondered why there is so much emphasis on RIT and the RIT/Industrial complex. I'm on Chicago and have worked in the Chicago Suburbs for almost 20 years. We've seen the advent…
2015-01-14 04:15:23
Marshall Sampietro
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spot on....
2015-01-02 14:43:50
Ron Ayotte
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‚ÄúOver safetyification‚ÄĚ... Dave, that is the best description of what those who want to prevent us from doing the job want to do to the job.
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