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stopwatch imageWhat is the average number of personnel you can expect from a company assigned to RIC, RIT or FAST duties in your area? Where on the fireground are they expected to be positioned? Does your department specify what tools shall be gathered by the RIC, RIT of FAST company?

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  • BK says:

    We here in our dept in KS will usually have 2-3 personnel. We usually have them position on the “A” side, but the situation will warrent their location. We have them grab the basic hand tools along with a TIC

  • In my SC dept. The initial RIC is 3-4 personnel. After an adequate size up, the RIC Officer stages at/near the CP while the rest of the RIC may stage nearby and/or provide proactive RIC tasks. For multi-story or commercial buildings, the RIC(s) may stage on different/multiple divisions. The entire FD is trained to our RIC SOG for riding positions, “basic” tools, multiple search methods and Mayday management.

  • Chris Minick says:

    My department in MD assigns the fourth engine on a box alarm as the RIT company. Minimum staffing is four. In the event of a working fire being declared, a RIT task force consisting of an engine company, a special service company, and a medic unit is assigned resulting in a RIT team of a minimum of 10 personnel.

    Typically the RIT sets up their tool area on the A side of the structure and assembles at that location. The RIT officer or a delegated team member is supposed to do a 360 and note any locations where ladders or other means of secondary egress can be or should be established. RIT crew activities and responsibilities and tools to be assembled are established by departmental SOP.

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Ron Ayotte
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Thank you Ed.
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Excellent article Bill!
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